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    Light suggestion

    Hey all!

    I'm looking for a lighting suggestion for a new tank. It was won at the SCAPE meet during the raffle (still so grateful), it's the Lifegard crystal aquarium, about 10 gallons. Issue is it is about 17.7" wide rather than the standard 20".

    The tank is going to be dedicated to shrimp and maybe some shrimp safe nano fish, but I want the light to be able to support a good looking scape for the creatures to inhabit.

    Any suggestions? It looks like the Twinstar 450E will fit and it seems like a good light, but a little pricey. A paintball co2 rig will be set up for the tank too.

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    For tanks like these my favorite configuration i have seen are pendant/clip singles with a decent spread. You can go with a simple swag kit + receptacle and hang it from the ceiling or do a clip arm, easiest found from amazon/ebay or sometimes a home improvement store.

    Lifegard aquatics also has a couple clip on lights that do great for macro algae in refugiums, so I imagine would be great for a low to mid light shrimp tank.

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    WYZM 15" Adjustable and Flexible Aquarium Light Bulb Holder Gooseneck Clamp for NANO Tanks(12" adjustable Holder) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011RBD6YW..._fdQZBbNARGTCF

    KINGBO LED Aquarium Light Nano, 18W LED Aquarium Lighting Bulb with 6-Band Full Spectrum for Fish Tank Coral Reef Saltwater Tank Plants Growth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01M0PF72P..._4dQZBb8WVF88M <-- this particular one will result in a very magenta toward blue spectrum. Berried female shrimp should glow and possibly orange eyed tigers, but your plant colors will be a bit off.

    These will basically do high light. I have not used this setup myself, but i know some folks who have done lps in nanos like yours with them, as well as sps in frag/growout tanks.

    These should get you everything up to glosso in terms of lighting requirements.

    There is an adjustable version of this bulbs (one side knob to shift betweeen two color channels, and one for intensity). A bit pricier though, and the one which I had in my "save for later" i cannot find.
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    Wow thanks Nick! Iíll definitely give this a look, already kind of have ideas on how to dress it up. Plus it would give clearance for some plants to grow above water too which might be kinda cool.

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    Does anyone have experience with the Chihiros RGB fixture? I was looking at the A Series but several reports were saying that it washes out greens and reds.

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    A Series does wash out the colors a bit. I have both, Chihiros RGB and A-Series, also has the C-Series as well. RGB series is my favorite.
    Quote Originally Posted by varanidguy View Post
    Does anyone have experience with the Chihiros RGB fixture? I was looking at the A Series but several reports were saying that it washes out greens and reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyeNewen View Post
    A Series does wash out the colors a bit. I have both, Chihiros RGB and A-Series, also has the C-Series as well. RGB series is my favorite.
    They really seem like good lights and itís especially attractive that they have a built-in dimmer. Would you say the RGB is good with rich colors, growing red plants, etc?

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    I don't know if it "grows" red plants better but it does make red plants look better.
    A-Series is a brighter light able to grow carpets better, RGB is more eye pleasing- plants and livestock doesn't look washed out. Just me being picky.


    Quote Originally Posted by varanidguy View Post
    They really seem like good lights and it’s especially attractive that they have a built-in dimmer. Would you say the RGB is good with rich colors, growing red plants, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyeNewen View Post
    I don't know if it "grows" red plants better but it does make red plants look better.
    A-Series is a brighter light able to grow carpets better, RGB is more eye pleasing- plants and livestock doesn't look washed out. Just me being picky.
    Yeah, that's what I meant by "better." Red plants are meant to pop but they seem to only do that under the right spectrum, even if they can grow well under a brighter, whiter light. The carpet I'm considering going with would be staurogyne repens, but it's not settled. Tank isn't even set up yet! lol

    The thing I like about the RGB is it comes with a stand where you can adjust the height. With co2 I probably wouldn't use the light diffuser. Chihiros and Twinstar seem to be extremely similar.

    Admittedly I'm currently a Finnex fanboy, but they don't make lights in the size this tank needs. :'(
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    Get the chihiros WRGB, i just got it today from aliexpress. Dont get the regular RGB it threw it away cause it was that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joethecinbeng View Post
    Get the chihiros WRGB, i just got it today from aliexpress. Dont get the regular RGB it threw it away cause it was that bad.
    What went wrong with the regular RGB?

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    Too much blue, not enough PAR.

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    So it's worth 2x the price of the RGB then? Very interesting, I'm intrigued. Any pictures of the two compared to each other in your tank? Did your measure PAR for both by any chance?

    Quote Originally Posted by joethecinbeng View Post
    Too much blue, not enough PAR.

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    Definitely worth the 2x the price. And its adjustable too. I like my tanks to be more in the warmer hue side. Cooler hue looks like a beginner's tank. The WRGB is definitely better than Twinstar S series too. The only problem is there is no warranty if you get it from Aliexpress.

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    The RGB i had was the 30cm one. The old BML i had was better.
    The color rendering of the RGB is real bad. PAR was only 35 in a 16 cm tank. But the new WRGB is the bomb. If you want to spend more, then wait for the Vivid RGB or get ATI 8 bulbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by joethecinbeng View Post
    The RGB i had was the 30cm one. The old BML i had was better.
    The color rendering of the RGB is real bad. PAR was only 35 in a 16 cm tank. But the new WRGB is the bomb. If you want to spend more, then wait for the Vivid RGB or get ATI 8 bulbs
    How far from the substrate was it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joethecinbeng View Post
    Get the chihiros WRGB, i just got it today from aliexpress. Dont get the regular RGB it threw it away cause it was that bad.
    The WRBG is as much money as the Twinstar E series, for that price I'd probably pick up the Twinstar.

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    Or if you want to save money you can use these:

    Alltrust 10W Super Slim Aquarium Fish Tank 5730 LED Light Clip-on Lamp Aquatic Plant Lighting (White Body White+Blue Light) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DPD45PY..._q8U0BbHZV4EPW

    I'm growing a carpet of eleocharis parvula in my ADA 120P with 4 to 5 of these. I can also grow rotala butterfly, pink hued royals macranda green, and red/pink rotala rotundifolia in my ADA 30C with 3 of them.

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    well you dont compare WRGB with E series. Compare it with the S series

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    Quote Originally Posted by joethecinbeng View Post
    well you dont compare WRGB with E series. Compare it with the S series
    Well itís only a 45cm tank. I donít want to blast it with TOO much light. And the reason for the comment was because Buce has the Twinstar in stock and for the same price, Iíd rather support them than order from China.


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