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    Question Colorful fiah in the San Gabriel River

    Today I went down to the whittier narrows and hiked to the San Gabriel river out of curiosity of what fish are there. I was surprised to find a few very colorful species that I'm pretty sure are native because I haven't ever seen them in the pet trade. Wondering if anyone wants to plan a day to go down there with me and hunt for some fish?

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    Before you even attempt this, make sure you KNOW all laws about collecting there.

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    @yogi1774 tends to be the person most knowledgeable of local fish species.

    Likely, if they are under 2", they are killifish

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    Yeah I've already called fish and game for all the regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Shades View Post
    @yogi1774 tends to be the person most knowledgeable of local fish species.

    Likely, if they are under 2", they are killifish
    We have killis out here!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powers A View Post
    Wondering if anyone wants to plan a day to go down there with me and hunt for some fish?
    If its legal id totally want to

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCas View Post
    We have killis out here!?

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    The desert pupfish is a killifish, to start.

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    According to the field guide it's perfectly legal. It isn't on protected land and the species I saw don't have a collection limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Shades View Post
    The desert pupfish is a killifish, to start.
    I looked up native freshwater fish, and i freaked out lol, so much cool fish! I thought there where only 2 pupfish, the blue ones in devils hole and the flagfish. Guess i was wrong lol, but thats fine cause the more pupfish the better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powers A View Post
    According to the field guide it's perfectly legal. It isn't on protected land and the species I saw don't have a collection limit.
    Would be a cool breeding project, after a bit we could release them back into the wild to help repopulate. Jack has that 600 gallon stock pond but its full of goldfish, maybe i can convince him lol

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    I'm personally on the hunt for the California killifish (Fundulus parvipinnis)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCas View Post
    I looked up native freshwater fish, and i freaked out lol, so much cool fish! I thought there where only 2 pupfish, the blue ones in devils hole and the flagfish. Guess i was wrong lol, but thats fine cause the more pupfish the better!

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    Only issue with pupfish is some of the species are either protected or are found on protected land. And of course it would be the coolest ones like the salt creek pupfish.

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    Fundulus parvipinnis - Commonly found in bays and salt marshes near shore, may enter freshwater (Ref.*36572). Often used in laboratories for environmental studies. Not a seasonal killifish. Is very difficult to maintain in aquarium (Ref.*27139). Oviparous, with micro-nektonic larvae (Ref.*36572). Single demersal eggs are attached to spawning substrate via small weakly adhesive filaments (Ref.*36572).

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    Quote Originally Posted by swoof View Post
    very difficult to maintain in aquarium
    Oof

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    I went fishing up there today! Couple of small native trout... But we had our dog as well so decided to check out a small camp ground on the way to Crystal lake. Here I saw a few cool looking colorful fish in the little streams and remembering this post decided to try and catch one with my hand. At first I thought it was a super cool looking minnow with colors and spots, but realized it was a Brook trout fry. Hopefully you guys don't take those and try to raise then in your tanks. I'm glad to see the trout population is starting to come back though!

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    Also if anyone has a paludarium or terrarium. I found hundreds of pacific treefrogs by a small pond on my walk to the river. If anyone wants to join me, I'm thinking about going back to the river this Saturday. Just an FYI in order to get some places off the trail you have to walk through some areas that are like a swamp so I would either pick up some rubber boots from homedepot or be prepared to go bearfoot, if you really want to explore. But there are plenty of places with cement.

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    Okay guys, sorry to spoil to fun, but I have to interrupt on this thread immediately.

    Due to concern of other members, it is important that I expressly indicate the following:

    Collecting Wildlife within Los Angeles County is expressly prohibited. The Whittier Narrows Recreation Area does not allow the collection of wildlife of any kind at any time.


    By all means, please continue this discussion for appreciation of the animals that are there in Whittier Narrows or throughout Los Angeles County, but their collection is prohibited and/or will result in prosecution or fines depending on the jurisdiction where it is performed.

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    Interesting.
    If a site allows fishing, there may be a liscense to fish for minnows.
    Its a legal loophole i used in Alabama where I'm from.
    Fishing liscense covered minnows under 2" to be used as bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Shades View Post
    Okay guys, sorry to spoil to fun, but I have to interrupt on this thread immediately.

    Due to concern of other members, it is important that I expressly indicate the following:

    Collecting Wildlife within Los Angeles County is expressly prohibited. The Whittier Narrows Recreation Area does not allow the collection of wildlife of any kind at any time.


    By all means, please continue this discussion for appreciation of the animals that are there in Whittier Narrows or throughout Los Angeles County, but their collection is prohibited and/or will result in prosecution or fines depending on the jurisdiction where it is performed.
    Why does Florida get to collect all the fish they want?��
    There's always the scientific collecting permit we can get from fish and game. Expensive but I think it's worth it.

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    I don't make the laws, and there are plenty of strange ones that apply to all of california when they concern only some of our northern estuaries.

    Be that as it may, having a scientific collection permit takes some worm.

    I have one pending for an endangered animal, and I have had more trouble just getting sign offs validated multiple times as opposed to actually applying for it.

    Los angeles county's collection laws differ from other counties in the state, so the traditional fish and game lisence does not apply.

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