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    Sad day! Angels ate their eggs a few days ago.

    Oh, well- I hear that is pretty common the first time.
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    Dang that looks amazing man! jealous

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    Way back at the July meet, I got 3 baby red bristle-nose. I put them in the big tank and they promptly disappeared. I assumed they had all died, but after a water change today, one of them reappeared!

    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    Hahaha! There must be a lot of hiding places in there. Are they supposed to have any favorite foods you could put in front in the hopes of coaxing them out?

    It's such a good feeling when something you thought was dead makes an unexpected appearance. I hope you have multiple little ninjas hiding in there.

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    Me too!

    The sinking pellets I put in there for the regular bushy seems to be drawing it out for now.
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    No major updates on this tank: I continue to battle BBA in batches and feel like I am constantly thinning out plants.

    I have given up on growing anything in the middle that need trimming, so I have relocated some swords there for now.

    Pictures still don’t convey the depth of the tank. It is so relaxing to sit in front of it as the fish move back and forth through all the crevices and overhanging plants.

    The one pair of angels tried another batch of eggs and then immediately ate them again... oh well. I am going to try and have a tank set up for next time so I can move the eggs over and try to hatch them. The tank is so busy with hungry fishies that fry will never survive.

    FTS:



    Middle:



    Left hand side (“the sword farm”:



    Right hand side (“shadow valley”)


    And a couple of shots looking down the length from the short sides. Now that I cleared some plants out, you can actually see all the way down the tank!

    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    What is you light setting

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    Quote Originally Posted by privinvlu View Post
    What is you light setting
    I am currently running the lights at only 55% intensity to keep the BBA in check, and I have abandoned any high-light stem plants anyway.

    The lights have 5 channels: cool white, warm white, red, green, and blue. I run the red and warm white slightly higher than the others to bring out the colors in the fish.
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    ooof.....I swear, the view from the side is super lovely! beautiful scape! and i love that separation into the foreground!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerojoe0917 View Post
    ooof.....I swear, the view from the side is super lovely! beautiful scape! and i love that separation into the foreground!
    Thank you! I spent most of Sunday ripping out java fern which is taking over the tank, and trimming less than healthy sword leaves, which seems to be most of them.

    I love this tank for a lot of reasons, but I will be honest and say I am in a pretty frustrated place with it right now. The huge pane of glass in the middle makes it very hard to maintain, and keeping algae in check has been a struggle.

    I think the massive pieces of wood just add too much organic waste to the tank.

    I am seriously considering tearing the whole scape down and starting over from scratch this summer. Go for a deliberately low-tech scape, better suited to the limitations of the tank, and put the emphasis on the fish instead of lush plant growth.
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    First time reading this thread completely. Tank looks wonderful Tom!
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    Ah~ it’s a common symptom for all us scapers, a scape will never be perfect. But I don’t think you need to tear it down. Maybe Drain it down, you can remove the drift wood and replace them with smaller fine drift wood or replace it with other stones.
    I just started a 90cm tank, and I DO NOT look forward to the day I need to tear the scape down!

    also fish won’t look their best with out some plants.
    don’t give up on it so soon ~ A scape can evolve couple time before you tear it down.



    Quote Originally Posted by geektom View Post
    Thank you! I spent most of Sunday ripping out java fern which is taking over the tank, and trimming less than healthy sword leaves, which seems to be most of them.

    I love this tank for a lot of reasons, but I will be honest and say I am in a pretty frustrated place with it right now. The huge pane of glass in the middle makes it very hard to maintain, and keeping algae in check has been a struggle.

    I think the massive pieces of wood just add too much organic waste to the tank.

    I am seriously considering tearing the whole scape down and starting over from scratch this summer. Go for a deliberately low-tech scape, better suited to the limitations of the tank, and put the emphasis on the fish instead of lush plant growth.

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    Yes this is my favorite sub forum (??is that how you call it??) I think seeing more of other people’s scape can give more inspiration and ideas.
    I do think this sub forum gets neglected sometimes. It’s packed full of interesting stuff!

    Quote Originally Posted by jem_xxiii View Post
    First time reading this thread completely. Tank looks wonderful Tom!

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    Here is a fresh picture after yesterday’s thinning:



    Thanks for the encouragement!
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    The light is always too bright to see the top when I take a full tank shot. Freshly trimmed H. Japan:




    Here you can see the algae problem, but the water stays crystal clear.

    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by geektom View Post
    The light is always too bright to see the top when I take a full tank shot. Freshly trimmed H. Japan:

    Here you can see the algae problem, but the water stays crystal clear.
    1)I do have to say, I prefer the right side of the scape more than the left side. the right side seems less crowded.
    2) how long do you keep the lights on for?
    3) yes you should remove that java fern....

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    I agree with Joe, the left looks a little crowded compared to the right side of the tank. Great looking tank nevertheless!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerojoe0917 View Post
    1)I do have to say, I prefer the right side of the scape more than the left side. the right side seems less crowded.
    2) how long do you keep the lights on for?
    3) yes you should remove that java fern....
    Yeah, the “stump” on the left hand side is a beast- pictures don’t do it justice. Covered with plants, it is much larger than I intended.

    I might pull the tall, reddish brown plants on that side (blanking on the name) to at least open the space around the stump. It would improve water flow, too.

    The lights are on for 8 hours, but at only 30% capacity. That timing includes a ramp up/down, so it is more like 7 hours, really.

    That java fern right in the middle has turned out to be really intrusive- it is on the end of a wide branch that sticks out. I would love to swap it out with moss, or something that would stay low, but the light it pretty bright hanging out there.
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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    Gorgeous tank and love the emersed growth. Are you still just running two co2 lines in the opposite corner of thanks on atomic diffusers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markgutin View Post
    Gorgeous tank and love the emersed growth. Are you still just running two co2 lines in the opposite corner of thanks on atomic diffusers?
    Yes, I don’t currently have any CO2 required plants in there, but based on a couple of months I tried going without them, it does still help the overall health of the plants and help keep the algae at bay.

    The diffusers are right under the outputs for the 2 FX 4’s, so it gets spread around pretty well.
    I am an old dog trying to learn some new tricks...

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