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    Centerpiece fish for 40 breeder?

    Hey all...I'm looking for a suggestion for a centerpiece fish in a planted 40 breeder. Current stocking is 10 neon tetras, 10 black neon tetras, 10 rummy nose tetras, 4 rams (two blues, two gold - one male three females), some snails (nerites, MTS, and I've seen some tiny ramshorns popping up), ghost shrimp, amano shrimp, an albion bristlenose pleco, and some cory cats. Water is kept 82-83 degrees, injected co2, etc.

    I was loving severum cichlids but they simply get too big. All the fish now are beautiful and great to watch, but I feel like it's missing something a bit bigger that really draws your attention to it. The fish themselves have been kept to a Central/South American theme, but I'm open to suggestions.

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    I would say, just my opinion, set your tetra groups higher. Begged shoals will see more group darting back and forth. For instance I have a group close to 15 gold ring danios. Just watching them dart around with the thread fin rainbows and then flame tetras is enjoyable.
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    You've already got dwarf cichlids, and the larger SA cichlids would make snacks of your neons. Hmmm... If you're willing to venture outside South America, how about a pair of Pearl Gouramis? Not sure if temps over 80 are too much for them, though.

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    Yeah, with those rams already in there, i would be reluctant to choose another cichlid,and with those shrimp in there, you are limiting what you can have as well.

    If you want to up your algae production in some way, a blue knight goby can be pretty spectacular, but that will take you out of south shrugs.

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    Up your corydoras group. Never can have enough carydoras. Having like <5 makes em lonely .

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    Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I am becoming more open to venturing outside of Central/South America.
    @swoof I've been thinking about upping the school of rummy nose more, but they're hard to find up here
    @Barliman gouramis have definitely been on the radar, if they can do well in the warmer water - definitely unique looking and I don't think the rams would be able to bully them
    @Nick Shades what type of algae do they eat? I'm not closed to that fish, but with the amount of algae eaters presently in the tank, the only algae that seems to be able to grow is green spot, and I haven't seen anything eat that crud
    @kberg2498 I have five now, did have 6 - one panda died, I'm not sure why, it quit eating - placed it in quarantine and it never recovered.

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    The blue knight goby i was thinking of is actually the neon blue knight stiphodon goby.

    Everything i have read about it is that it eats all algae, but it has to have about of it, and it needs a fast moving current.

    It is s tough of though, and unless you can produce alot of algae, you'll want to stay away from it.

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    Syiphidons are not the greatest algae eaters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swoof View Post
    Syiphidons are not the greatest algae eaters.
    Wellllllll.... Algae is their primary source of food, and they do not readiky eat vegetables or herbivore flake. They're not around to take care of algae, they're just an exotic fish that requires it in their diet in order to be healthy.

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    Yeah in order to keep them alive you basically need something like Repashy Soilent Green.
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    I've been wanting to try some of the Repashy stuff, it's just so expensive for fish food.

    Well, those gobies don't get very large anyway. About the same size as my rams now. I was hoping for something in the 4-6 inch range that stands out...looks like gouramis will be a good bet, just have to compromise on the Central/South American thing with the fish themselves...but considering the inverts are from all over, oh well! lol

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    You want big gobies look at white cheek (rhinogobius) or Australian desert gobies.
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    What about a single angelfish, raised up from a baby?

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    Discus



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    Quote Originally Posted by John7429 View Post
    Discus
    That would be sick, but one single discus? I thought they don't do well like that.

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    Discus in 40B seems pushing it. I think John hopes later you will need a larger tank since he is forever unloading deals. I'd shoot for a good mix of community fish and a pair of dwarf cichlids.

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    A 40 is fine for a discus. Esp if you start with a smaller one. Would take 5-7 years to outgrow it, if ever.



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    I never considered keeping discus solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenzu View Post
    I never considered keeping discus solo.
    Sounds like he already has plenty of little friends haha



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    If it would be doable without being cruel to the fish, a discus would be awesome!

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