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    Quote Originally Posted by privinvlu View Post
    Anybody have a picture of mature apisto white(sells at ck).
    It’s hard to say since they’re so young... but I was thinking “white gold apistogramma...”. When I googled it, there’s seems to been a bunch of different variations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongox3 View Post
    Oh no !!! A whole new place to send my money!!! Thanks Shawn
    I saw the link and frantically checked the stock list and was happy so was my wallet, nothing too tempting.

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    Hahaha!!! Oh there’s always something to spend money on in this hobby... so with the daphnia culture, Its looking good... no yeast, mostly using algae (which I have a constant supply lol), Spirulina, and occasional a very light touch of pea/water baby food... the baby food, breaking up in water also is enjoyed by my plecos, corys, and ottos... just very very little as to not foul the water...

    I’m hoping with all the leaf litter clutter in the tank to have a constant food source of daphnia moina and pulex in there along with micro worms...

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    there are like 3 apisto pages on FB if you havent join and a few vendors on there. most of the members are knowledgeable and will help identify unknown apisto. some of them are even collect and help write on findings of apistos

    Miguel who runs one of the pages on FB has good stock and decent selection the only bad thing is he doesnt ship any of his stock out only available for pick up.

    i also tried to contact Unungy and no luck on any response. he is a local import/export in SFV. he had in the past brought in a lot of wild caught apistos and plenty of rare plecos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamchops View Post
    there are like 3 apisto pages on FB if you havent join and a few vendors on there. most of the members are knowledgeable and will help identify unknown apisto. some of them are even collect and help write on findings of apistos

    Miguel who runs one of the pages on FB has good stock and decent selection the only bad thing is he doesnt ship any of his stock out only available for pick up.

    i also tried to contact Unungy and no luck on any response. he is a local import/export in SFV. he had in the past brought in a lot of wild caught apistos and plenty of rare plecos.
    unungy left the country years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongox3 View Post
    That is an awesome video. The way they all shoal together is neat to see.
    [ Bucephalandra Fiend | My 8g Buce Tank ]

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    Love that video... lol durning my down time at work, I’m constantly looking at YouTube videos of these regions...

    Look at the color on this female!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5RnZBgz5qqo

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    Nice little fish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kqchung View Post
    I went to CK today and picked up 6 of the apistogramma cacatuoides white. Hopefully I get at least 1 pair out of it.
    any update. can you upload a picture? did they color up

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    Quote Originally Posted by privinvlu View Post
    any update. can you upload a picture? did they color up
    My male has started to show some dark coloration on the fins and some gold around the gills and tail.

    Dunno why pictures are loading sideways but you get the idea.

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    Last edited by JavaJacketOC; 03-21-2018 at 07:31 PM.

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    The two (of the same type) I have are we’re hyper aggressive... I had to place them in my large 100g tank as they were beating up all tank mate... immediately taking over territories...it may have been breeding behavior - just be mindful of the smaller tankmates stress...

    I saw a larger, more mature one for sale at petdotcom... it however had no coloration besides gold...

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    With those dwarf cichlids appreciating waters rich in humic acids - have any of you guys had any experience with this product?

    http://www.saltyshrimp.de/english/bl...er_powder.html

    I usually use caribSea instant amazon or make my own solution by boiling leaves and peat... but was curious...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongox3 View Post
    With those dwarf cichlids appreciating waters rich in humic acids - have any of you guys had any experience with this product?

    http://www.saltyshrimp.de/english/bl...er_powder.html

    I usually use caribSea instant amazon or make my own solution by boiling leaves and peat... but was curious...
    I have been trying to lower with just peat but so far not getting down to 6..hovers around 7. Might try something like this when they get closer to maturity. What's the ingredient list when you make your own?

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    To get a significantly low ph, the above listed products aren’t going to cut it... nor is the leaf/peat soup I make... I’m using the seachem products to get my tanks in the mid 6’s... but haven’t quite mastered their use... use caution manipulation of ph though... a fast ph drop will kill fish quickly...

    The above seem to greatly benefit fish health though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongox3 View Post
    To get a significantly low ph, the above listed products aren’t going to cut it... nor is the leaf/peat soup I make... I’m using the seachem products to get my tanks in the mid 6’s... but haven’t quite mastered their use... use caution manipulation of ph though... a fast ph drop will kill fish quickly...

    The above seem to greatly benefit fish health though...
    I've been able to drop PH from 8 to 7 over the course of a couple weeks with just the media bag of peat in my filter. I may try using more oak leaves or possibly doing a boiled down mixture but I am using RO water that is 15 TDS right out the gate but is still around 8 PH. KH and GH is are relatively low at low at 3-5.

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    Nice! As far as the gold apisto, if they’re cacatouides, your probably good with your current water perimeters ... Marc Allen raises his in a combo or tap and RO... if cacatouides, they also live in the upper region of the amazon in clear or white water environments... the softer water would be appreciated, but heavily tannin water would not be what they’re accustomed to...

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    I googled it with not much luck.... anyone know what tetra can be found in the blackwater of Peru? If not, then just generally Peruvian tetras.... setting up a apistogramma panduro tank and trying to figure out appropriate tank-mates....they should be tough and fast as this apisto can be aggressive....


    Also, here’s another reference site...beautiful pics of the region and species

    http://apisto.sites.no/slekt.aspx?gruppeID=1
    Last edited by Bongox3; 03-24-2018 at 09:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bongox3 View Post
    I googled it with not much luck.... anyone know what tetra can be found in the blackwater of Peru? If not, then just generally Peruvian tetras.... setting up a apistogramma panduro tank and trying to figure out appropriate tank-mates....they should be tough and fast as this apisto can be aggressive....


    Also, here’s another reference site...beautiful pics of the region and species

    http://apisto.sites.no/slekt.aspx?gruppeID=1
    Are you specifically wanting tetras or just something to help them feel safe? Pencil-fish are probably good option but I'm sure you can get any with a lot of tetra species.

    I ended up using cardinal fish for my cacatouides, so far so good.

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    Thanks Justin.... pencil fish are always a winner... was just hoping for a schooling fish from that area...

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