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    Extreme Nano self sustaining bowls

    I have a couple small fish bowls (the type you could win a goldfish in at a carnival back in the day). I want to try a self sustaining tank and thought I'd start with a small bowl. I've watched a bunch of videos on YouTube and learned a lot.

    I'm starting this thread if anyone has any tips or suggestions.

    I plan to inhabit the bowl with shrimp so I'm thinking I'll need a heater. These are too small to install a little heater so I am thinking small heat pads for seedlings.

    Going to use low light plants.

    Any thoughts?

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    As a test, I've done something similar, just a jar with half of java moss with 6 low end cherry shrimps, no heater, no air bubbles, no light, no feeding. After a year there were only one shrimp left and the jar was full of java moss. I think it's torture for the shrimp so I am not doing this again.
    If it's a hobby, don't try to set it and forget it, it's no fun and pointless.

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    You mean low tech/low care? Self sustaining to me implies no outside influence. Like those Sealed Bio-orbs with opae ula. Low care bowls are fun to set up and are very cost effective compared to setting up another planted tank. I feel that the size bowl you picked may be a bit too small for fauna since those bowls are only like 16oz. I would scout Ross, DD discounts, TJ max, Marshalls, Homegoods, thirft stores for something more suitable in terms of size/volume. I would shoot for at least 1 gallon and up. This should allow adequate space for plants and some shrimp.

    Be careful not to buy crystal, make sure your container is glass or acrylic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenzu View Post
    You mean low tech/low care? Self sustaining to me implies no outside influence. Like those Sealed Bio-orbs with opae ula. Low care bowls are fun to set up and are very cost effective compared to setting up another planted tank. I feel that the size bowl you picked may be a bit too small for fauna since those bowls are only like 16oz. I would scout Ross, DD discounts, TJ max, Marshalls, Homegoods, thirft stores for something more suitable in terms of size/volume. I would shoot for at least 1 gallon and up. This should allow adequate space for plants and some shrimp.

    Be careful not to buy crystal, make sure your container is glass or acrylic.
    Guess I should've said low tech. If I've learned one thing there is no "no tech". I'm just looking for something that I only need to top off occasionally. I'm two days in and already thinking I may need a bigger bowl. Just because of what you said, not a lot of room for plant growth. This is a work in progress. Thinking maybe I should document it so I can show others my successes and my failures.

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    I switched to a bigger bowl. I believe this one is 2g (a cheapie from Walmart). I'm going to try to document the progress, if there is any. So far so good. I used plants from my other tanks.

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    Wow that's pretty neat Bruce! Are you going to add a super tiny sponge filter?

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    Have you seen these "Pond" by Glass Aqua: https://shop.glassaqua.com/products/...ss-cup-planter? Every time I open this thread it always makes me think of them.
    [BuceFiend.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhoKingGood View Post
    Wow that's pretty neat Bruce! Are you going to add a super tiny sponge filter?
    No plan to. From what I've learned it should be a semi self-sustaining bowl. Except for topping it off occasionally I am hoping it will take care of itself. This is all new to me so any info/suggestions are welcome.

    Here's the video I watched that got me interested in trying.


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    Pretty cool bowl!

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    So I am six days in and I have finally got the light and temp down. Small bowl so a normal heater wasn't really an option. I opted for a seedling heating mat which seems to be working great. It's taken me a day to figure out how long to have it on for but I'm keeping it in the 78-82 range. I will be posting updates with pictures, success or failure, so if you're interested check back to the thread.

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    10 day update! So far so good! Have done one water change (about 10%). The plants are pearling like crazy and seem to be doing well. Shrimp seem pretty happy too (Cheery Red's and Amanos).

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