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    Have my 35g salt tank going for a few weeks now.. any advice on the equipements?

    On a whim I picked up a bag of salt, a bag of bio sand, and broke out my old freshwater stuff. So far my tank is just fish, blue leg hermit and an emerald crab in there.. with a desklamp and 2 little HOB filters. Also some cheesy neon decorations. Haven't tested for jack.. don't even have a thermometer! :P

    Should I be testing the water for TOD, hardness and pH? Before getting in to "live deco" like macros or polyps anything else? Should I get a skimmer? I'll dig through this section of the forum.. but any advice is appreciated!
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    you might want to head over to socalireefs.com (salt water forum for socal peeps) for more information. And yes you should buy the API testing kit. There are 2 that you need to get. API salt water test kit and reef master test kit.

    Try something easy like birds nest or Zoas or mushrooms.

    if you go protein skimmer you may need a sump to put it in.
    i think you are at the border line of needing or not needing a skimmer. but again do your own research.
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    So for macros do you Co2 and dose? And another forum in my life... maybe I should forget about the live deco. :P
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    No co2 in reef tanks. The cycle on a reef tank may 4-6 weeks with no starter seed. Did you test for ammonia? Protein skimmer in necessary but not mandatory if you are religious about water changes. I don't think a desk lamp with support coral. ALK and PO4 levels are the most critical to manage IMO. Good Luck!

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    I think its been 3 weeks. I started with the "you can add fish IMMEDIATELY!!!" bag of crushed coral sand. And I did! With damsels, a molly and a guppy. I lost a red hermit a few days back then I added the 2nd HOB filter. The other 2 crabs seem more active now. I think the lack of flow was the problem. Or maybe both flow and cycling.. seems ok now. I'm going to take it slow and read up before going deeper. My kids love it though.. they have only ever had freshwater stuff.
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    Saltwater in an amazing, time consuming and expensive hobby...lots to learn but very rewarding. One more thing I forgot, with the recent heat waves stay on top of temp and salinity. Water evaporates but salt does not, top of with RODI water. Anything over 81 will make your corals stress, 85 is nuke level, ideal temp is about 78. Lots of reef clubs in the greater LA area, most are a collective of geeks ready to help a fellow reefer. Check them out.

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    Use only rodi or else u get a lot of algae. Your tank is probably already cycled but you can bavtera in a bottle such as Dr. Tim's that works real well for a 1 day cycle.

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    I used tap water in haste.. I might pickup an RO setup, for a couple hundred its probably worth it. Not sure what the DI part does!

    Here is a throwback tuesday scape pic I posted of my youngest fry.. she is almost five years now. She wanted a "nemo fish" for a long time, so that has a lot to do with this salt thing. My oldest fry is taller than my mom now. Crazy how time flies.
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    Check the following video for some basic water filtration info... forward >> to 3:30 minutes.

    RODI, Reverse Osmosis/ Deionization


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    If u keep it a fish only tank with real low lighting, you'll be fine with tap or RO water. But If u ever dip into the reef then you'll need RODI

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    Thanks for the link, ordered the six stage 75gph from those guys. I'll haul some water from the RO cooler at work to hold me over until I get it setup.

    It cost me more than my tank, fish, and equipment all combined! I figure its worth it in the long run though. I could use the clean water for non-aquarium purposes too..

    Do any of you guy run like a cheapo ice maker water filter as a prefilter for the RODI setup to extend life? I was thinking that is a good idea for the small cost..
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    Use the waste water for something. We're in a drought

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    How much waste water do these things generate? I can't use use it for my backyard or front yard because I'd just be watering dirt. I was ahead of the curve on that one..
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    It depends on a few things... at its best it will yield 1:1 at its worst your looking at 1:5

    Things that will impact your yields.
    - TDS levels from tap
    - water pressure
    - size of RODI unit
    - water temp

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    Wow thats terrible!

    The one at work is plumbed into the sewage. I'll see if I can move it so it points to the foliage outside..

    Here's a bonus pic of my brave cycling fish. Damsel and molly and guppy.
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    If you have a top load washer, run the waste water in there

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    I do have a top load washer. I will try that. What I don't have is a good big clean storage container. Time to go trashcan shopping..

    I also would like to use this for drinking water. I read that it should be tapped off before the DI stage.. so I will also do that.
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    You definitely need to do more research on SW tanks. It's better to do your research and do things right the first time. It's cheaper and less stressful. Trust me. I didn't do my research and I wasted a lot of time and money at first. Just my 2

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    You'll be fine using just the RO side of it for your tank and drinking water. Buy a float valve. If you get into corals then you'll need rodi

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    I got an IR thermometer. I can now check my tank temp from 50ft away. :P Found out "76" on my old heater is actually 90.. I don't know how any of my stuff is still alive, but it is! Got it down to 82 by adjusting the heater to "70." Have pointed a fan on to try to get a couple more degrees knocked down.

    Speaker, I'm keeping things low budget until I get it down. The RO thing was something I've wanted for a long time regardless of aquarium use. So that one doesn't count towards my budget in my mind! I'll proably get a nice tank and stand later on if I get serious.

    Went down to check out some tidepools yesterday. Saw alot of cool algaes got me wanting to get some soon.. Saw some cool blenny looking fishes also. I'm going to get my light setup figured out next, not going get a skimmer since it sounds like I don't need one. Gonna take it slow tho..
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